Subject: System Dynamics Rapport

Posted by Richard Turnock on 12/2/2004
In Reply To:System Dynamics Rapport Posted by Steve Kipp on 12/1/2004

Message:

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Maybe we have finally arrived at the paradox, a good sign we are getting

somewhere: As Scott so eloquently expressed, we are most definitely

swimming against the currents of society. Yet I think Christian is also

correct: the leverage points are found in examining our own mental

models!

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Steve Kipp, thank you for the update on current progress.



NCLB creates a crisis for teachers because using traditional methods to solve the problems will only make things worse. Maybe, as Steve Kipp suggests, we can ride the NCLB wave to get teachers to examine their mental models combined with, as Ruth suggests, research that documents the efficacy of ST/SD. All the while I work on examining my own mental models.



So, here is a follow-up to my first email of 11/25 that referred to the Perry scheme:



Based on the Perry scheme, results exist from decades of testing college students. Today, throughout the USA, universities and learning organizations use the Perry scheme assessment methods for curriculum planning and learning interventions. My suggestion is to have the type of educational research suggested by Ruth use these assessment methods with high school students. Then compare that data with the results for college students. The key focus should not be on the stability of the positions but assisting students in the transitions. If ST/SD has efficacy then the credibility of this assessment method might be used to overcome denial and resistance.



For example, I’m suggesting anyone working on research (i.e. for dissertations) should consider using the Perry scheme assessment methods to measure student (high school or college) cognitive and intellectual development. If a ST/SD learning intervention results in assisting students in the transition between Perry positions then that supports the efficacy of ST/SD.



Richard