Impact of K-12 SD on government
Posted by Lees Stuntz on 3/6/2007
This is an exchange that appeared on the System Dynamics Listserve which I thought you all might find of interest. The conversation started about the impact of system dynamics on the national government, or the lack thereof.
Posted by Steve Roderick As a high school educator who uses system dynamics in the classroom I must concur that frustration is a primary sentiment when gauging the apparent penetration, or lack thereof, of systems principles into governmental policy. It is difficult to know just how prevalent these ideas are. My intuition rests with Jack Homer's assertion that there are many more people using systems thinking than we might suspect.
A larger question might be, "when policy decisions are made, are those who use SD and other systems approaches listened to by those who know little of the field?" For real penetration there must be a willingness among policy makers to use alternative approaches to viewing problems. Reaching a critical mass of individuals with this willingness takes time, and it is the "glacial pace" of change in the short term, that for me, brings on most of the frustration.
If we step back though, and view over the long term, perhaps it is a change that will occur over a time frame longer than one generation. We all know that exponential growth can be quite deceptive at first. Over the many years that I have been teaching it is clear that more and more of my students are being exposed to the fundamental ideas behind systems thinking. They return from University and relate stories of how what they learned in high school concerning feedback and stocks and flows has been very useful to them in college.
I have been teaching for 30 years. Jay Forrester's Industrial Dynamics was published only a decade before that. Students from my first class of high school seniors are now only 48 years old, just reaching what is likely the age of governmental policy makers. Hopefully they will be the first of a steadily growing cohort of open minded thinkers willing to use these important ideas.
The concern expressed in the original posting was around penetration of systems ideas into policy making. To get there we need to help people think differently, and early education is our best hope.
Steven Roderick Biology Teacher Lincoln Sudbury Regional High School Sudbury, MA Posted by Steve Roderick
From: sdmail@lists.systemdynamics.org Subject: REPLY SD Impact on National Government Policies (SD6144) Date: January 5, 2007 6:38:08 AM EST To: sdmail@lists.systemdynamics.org
Posted by "Dan Proctor" This is in reply to posts re disseminating system dynamics in gov't, education, and the general public.
I am organizing a test of the following hypothesis in my "civic backyard" and encourage others to design and organize similar (or different) tests, and let's see how much water the hypothesis holds. Suggestions welcome.
The hypothesis: If high school students versed in system dynamics use these skills through the school's Community Service Program to facilitate discussion by local civic organizations, then community support for the teaching of system dynamics will increase; the number of students learning system dynamics will increase along with the amount of time and interest they devote to the subject; their skills at facilitating discussion and teaching system dynamics to adult community leaders will increase; community support for teaching system dynamics in the schools will further increase, etc.
I have a WORD document with the above cast in causal-loop form and will gladly send it.
I. Assorted "givens":
1. The teaching of system dynamics probably won't thrive in the schools without community support.
2. System dynamics familiarity among community leaders/activists needs to spread at a rapid rate (assuming such familiarity is probably a pre-requisite to ecological and economic sustainability).
3. Small-town governments in New England have a plethora of official volunteer boards, commissions, and committees. For example, Concord and Sudbury in Mass. each have about 40. Many of these bodies are common to most towns. Thus system dynamics diagrams and simulations developed for one Board of Selectmen, school committee, conservation commission, or planning board could be adapted for use by counterparts in other towns. Particularly useful models with appropriate discussion and information could be posted on the websites of state-wide associations of bodies such as school committees and conservation commissions. It should also be noted that state legislators are typically drawn from Boards of Selectmen and school committees.
4. These town entities are of an ideal size for holding system dynamics "workshops"-they probably average fewer than 10 members.
5. Sierra Club would be a logical catalyst to persuade pertinent parties to try the process outlined below, and, in cooperation with Creative Learning Exchange, to assist the parties in the process (For a variety of reasons I chose Sierra Club as the key organization to get this ball rolling, but any civic organization you happen to belong to might serve for testing the hypothesis). For example, one member of the local School Committee is also a Sierra Club member. She sees population growth as the top environmental issue. Presumably she would be intrigued that so many SD models, including of global warming and of schools, contain a population sector. From that starting point she might soon see how an SD model of the school system could be of great value to school committee members and administrators, and that having a student facilitate informal, free introductory diagramming workshops would be an excellent way of experimenting with the idea. The school district might eventually employ a consultant to pick up where the student leaves off and develop an extensive model that could not only be used in managing the school but also in further teaching students (and the town's Financial Committee) about system dynamics. The school district might recoup its model-development costs by licensing its model to other districts, which could hire system dynamicists to adapt the model to their particulars. This general process could be repeated with other town boards, such as conservation commissions, planning boards, housing authorities, etc.
6. Sierra Club could also facilitate communication among counterpart boards of different towns, inasmuch as many of the members of these bodies are also Sierra Club members. Sierra Club could also facilitate the spread of this process to other states, especially California, where Club membership is most concentrated and active; and to cities and towns where system dynamics is already taught in schools and colleges.
II. Steps in the process (once it has been "set up" in a town)
1. A town committee or other public-service organization wishing to engage a student for one or more diagramming sessions places a request with the high school or college's Community Service Coordinator (CSC).
2. The CSC puts one or two eligible students and a "contact teacher" in touch with the committee/organization.
3. After settling on a date, topic, and other details, the student e-mails or otherwise sends 2 or 3 pages of intro PDF files and instructions to the committee members.
4. The contact teacher or student may examine the Creative Learning Exchange website (www.clexchange.org) for diagrams, models, and other information pertinent to the topic (over time a stock of useful models could be accumulated).
5. If this is the student's first time to conduct such a session, a teacher or other adult with system-diagramming experience accompanies him/her to the workshop. Parents are also encouraged to attend.
6. Each committee member is expected to have pen and paper to copy any drawings made by the student, as well as to keep notes during the session.
7. The student should strive to be more teacher than consultant. That is, to explain all diagram-elements used, and why. In the latter half of the workshop the student should ask committee members to come up singly and draw in any aspects of the system which they think it needs. The student should at this point become more of a coach, posing questions about the diagram as it stands, asking for more details, for example about initial numeric values of stocks, about time units, etc. but having the adults make the changes & additions to the diagrams.
8. The student should end the session before participants tire. "Leave 'em begging for more." The student's Community Service form is filled out and signed by committee chair.
9. The student provides a handout to each participant with pertinent resource information on system dynamics and if possible specific to the topic being treated.
After the workshop:
10. Each participant is encouraged to download Vensim PLE and enter the diagrams which he/she copied at the workshop. They are encouraged to then practice adding additional diagram elements and/or building new diagrams, and to write up questions, insights, need for further information, etc. for their next meeting.
11. Participants are also encouraged to develop diagrams pertaining to their work or other interests. A sub-hypothesis to be explored here is that participating in a civic body that uses system dynamics can lead to increasing one's professional skills.
12. Participants are asked to send evaluations of the workshop to the contact teacher or other organizers. Evaluation and other follow-up forms should be provided. The organizer and participants will decide, based on these follow-up forms, whether a second workshop would be valuable, and if so, plan its details.
13. If the committee wishes to pursue model development beyond the capability of the students and contact teachers, the contact teacher can provide a list of system dynamics consultants. = = = Dan Proctor Concord, MA Posted by "Dan Proctor"
From: sdmail@lists.systemdynamics.org Subject: REPLY SD Impact on National Government Policies (SD6143) Date: January 5, 2007 6:38:08 AM EST To: sdmail@lists.systemdynamics.org
Posted by Steven Roderick "So what puzzles me is why other great ideas do not have to wait so long for widespread uptake?"
To Kim's wonderful observations I might add the following. It is an overused analogy, but a pump must be primed if one expects an instantaneous flow of water from it. It seems that change will come as a result of work on all fronts. Priming is the work of educators. A public that knows of systems is a public that can create action around systems. The actual work of moving the pump handle will have to come from those who are active in the field. Both Kim and Jay are absolutely right when they say that publishing for lay person, on topics of immediate relevency, is necessary. Combined with a knowledgeable (primed) public, perhaps rapid and "widespread uptake" is possible. I have faith that there is more of a primed public out there than we imagine.
Profound and sweeping concepts often do take time. I am reminded of the fact that I came across Jay's work first in 1971, the same year that I attended, as a student, a symposium at MIT on "Inadvertant Climate Modification". For years I have taught about this in my high school classes and consistently have felt frustrated and discouraged by the perceived lack of change. Today, 35 years, a failed presidential attempt by Al Gore, and an ensuing film on "Inconvenient Truths" later, I cannot escape discussion of global warming. What happened? Perhaps a primed public that I was not able to perceive, and the right publication at the right time.
Ah.... isn't all this complexity wonderful? Jay, I'm running home to start my book ... just as soon as classes are over.
Steve Roderick Lincoln Sudbury Regional High School Posted by Steven Roderick
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